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	<description>...is a blog by Tom Scott a place where I ramble about my thoughts and observations on the open web, linked data, URIs and generally how technology and design can create great things for people to use.</description>
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		<title>By: Linked Data making the web human centric &#171; Derivadow.com</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linked Data making the web human centric &#171; Derivadow.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about the stuff that matters to them - whether that be a TV programme, a music track, a book, a person, or a holiday. And whether they access that thing on their desktop computer, mobile phone or IP [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: BBC public value in the online world &#171; Derivadow.com</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBC public value in the online world &#171; Derivadow.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I&#8217;ve discussed previously emails are for contacting people not for identifying them. Using emails for identification means [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tom Scott</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jim - well in terms of people having an OpenID account, you could argue that it&#039;s mainstream right now. After all everyone with a Yahoo!, AOL/AIM or Wordpress account has one right now.

But that&#039;s only half the story. What needs to happen next is these (and other) services need to start to accept OpenID. The fact Yahoo! et al. don&#039;t is a really shame and makes me think they are jumping on the marketing bandwagon. I hope I&#039;m wrong and in due course they like Plaxo, Dopplr etc. will start to using others OpenIDs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim &#8211; well in terms of people having an OpenID account, you could argue that it&#8217;s mainstream right now. After all everyone with a Yahoo!, AOL/AIM or WordPress account has one right now.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s only half the story. What needs to happen next is these (and other) services need to start to accept OpenID. The fact Yahoo! et al. don&#8217;t is a really shame and makes me think they are jumping on the marketing bandwagon. I hope I&#8217;m wrong and in due course they like Plaxo, Dopplr etc. will start to using others OpenIDs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Simmons</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2095</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Simmons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[**** crickets ****

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**** crickets ****</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Simmons</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Simmons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All great, but can someone suggest how this can be made into a mainstream solution? Or point to examples of how the benefit is so clear that even average user would &quot;get it&quot; and make openID based auth their primary method? I suppose the benefit has to be crystal clear to the service/site too (Magnolia comes to mind).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great, but can someone suggest how this can be made into a mainstream solution? Or point to examples of how the benefit is so clear that even average user would &#8220;get it&#8221; and make openID based auth their primary method? I suppose the benefit has to be crystal clear to the service/site too (Magnolia comes to mind).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Scott</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris: Thanks for the links - very nice set of articles. Much better than what I wrote.

Danny: Sure an HTTP GET wouldn&#039;t return a person! But a URI can be used to identify a person just as an ISBN can be used to identify a book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: Thanks for the links &#8211; very nice set of articles. Much better than what I wrote.</p>
<p>Danny: Sure an HTTP GET wouldn&#8217;t return a person! But a URI can be used to identify a person just as an ISBN can be used to identify a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Ayers</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Ayers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice piece, though it&#039;s worth repeating that URLs can&#039;t be used to directly identify people - a HTTP GET will not return the person! But URLs do make good indirect identifiers (e.g. using &lt;a href=&quot;http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_homepage&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;foaf:homepage&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_openid&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;foaf:openid&lt;/a&gt;. But you can always &lt;a href=&quot;http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/71&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Give yourself a URI&lt;/a&gt;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece, though it&#8217;s worth repeating that URLs can&#8217;t be used to directly identify people &#8211; a HTTP GET will not return the person! But URLs do make good indirect identifiers (e.g. using <a href="http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_homepage" rel="nofollow">foaf:homepage</a> or <a href="http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_openid" rel="nofollow">foaf:openid</a>. But you can always <a href="http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/71" rel="nofollow">Give yourself a URI</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Messina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, this sounds like a bunch of the posts I&#039;ve been writing lately..! ;) Nice.

http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/04/08/oauth-discovery-10-draft-2-released-with-support-from-magnolia-fire-eagle-and-satisfaction/
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/03/19/relationships-are-complicated/
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/03/11/portable-contact-lists-and-the-case-against-xfn/
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/23/the-existential-diso-interview/
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this sounds like a bunch of the posts I&#8217;ve been writing lately..! ;) Nice.</p>
<p><a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/04/08/oauth-discovery-10-draft-2-released-with-support-from-magnolia-fire-eagle-and-satisfaction/" rel="nofollow">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/04/08/oauth-discovery-10-draft-2-released-with-support-from-magnolia-fire-eagle-and-satisfaction/</a><br />
<a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/03/19/relationships-are-complicated/" rel="nofollow">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/03/19/relationships-are-complicated/</a><br />
<a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/03/11/portable-contact-lists-and-the-case-against-xfn/" rel="nofollow">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/03/11/portable-contact-lists-and-the-case-against-xfn/</a><br />
<a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/23/the-existential-diso-interview/" rel="nofollow">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/23/the-existential-diso-interview/</a><br />
<a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/" rel="nofollow">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/01/03/its-high-time-we-moved-to-url-based-identifiers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Highly connected graphs: Opening BBC data &#171; Derivadow.com</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/04/05/urls-arent-just-for-web-pages/#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Highly connected graphs: Opening BBC data &#171; Derivadow.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and HTTP etc.) to identify and link to a representation of something, and that something can be person, a programme or an album release. These resources also have representations which can be [...]]]></description>
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