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	<title>Comments on: When&#8217;s the sailing on? Introducing genre schedules&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Radio 4 Comedy Feeds &#124; HubLog</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-3148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Radio 4 Comedy Feeds &#124; HubLog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] there are now feeds available for all of the BBC programmes/stations in multiple formats, you can subscribe to a calendar of comedy shows on Radio 4, for [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Its been a long time coming - but finally we&#8217;re out of beta &#171; Derivadow.com</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Its been a long time coming - but finally we&#8217;re out of beta &#171; Derivadow.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] between them more coherent and consistent. So for example making schedules by format in addition to schedules by genre and generally linking everything up. We&#8217;re also going to be adding the missing views - those [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] between them more coherent and consistent. So for example making schedules by format in addition to schedules by genre and generally linking everything up. We&#8217;re also going to be adding the missing views &#8211; those [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair enough - you can guess my feature request though - a &quot;narrative repeat&quot;-free feed! I assume that a decision has been made that they should be included though, so fair enough.

Send my thanks to all at the BBC for the rapid movement into linked data - it&#039;s looking great in general.

Thanks again!

Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough &#8211; you can guess my feature request though &#8211; a &#8220;narrative repeat&#8221;-free feed! I assume that a decision has been made that they should be included though, so fair enough.</p>
<p>Send my thanks to all at the BBC for the rapid movement into linked data &#8211; it&#8217;s looking great in general.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Scott</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dave

So we have a concept know as &quot;narrative repeats&quot; - these are repeats that happen within 7 days of the original broadcast.

The .../debut includes narrative repeats this means that if a &#039;new&#039; programme is broadcast or is repeated within that 7 day window all instances are included.

Confusing heh? It makes much more sense when your dealing with the TV schedule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave</p>
<p>So we have a concept know as &#8220;narrative repeats&#8221; &#8211; these are repeats that happen within 7 days of the original broadcast.</p>
<p>The &#8230;/debut includes narrative repeats this means that if a &#8216;new&#8217; programme is broadcast or is repeated within that 7 day window all instances are included.</p>
<p>Confusing heh? It makes much more sense when your dealing with the TV schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tom

Cheers for the reply - I can see the problem the old stuff that is &#039;debuting&#039; since your new system came in, no worries. But shouldn&#039;t the Radio 4 LW repeats of the new series not be showing? Because your system knows that they are playing on FM a few days earlier? Would be grand if it did, but I guess the logic may be difficult/ may not be your top priority!

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom</p>
<p>Cheers for the reply &#8211; I can see the problem the old stuff that is &#8216;debuting&#8217; since your new system came in, no worries. But shouldn&#8217;t the Radio 4 LW repeats of the new series not be showing? Because your system knows that they are playing on FM a few days earlier? Would be grand if it did, but I guess the logic may be difficult/ may not be your top priority!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Scott</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dave

This is really a problem with the data - because we don&#039;t yet have a full schedule history we don&#039;t know/ the application doesn&#039;t &#039;know&#039; that this isn&#039;t a debut (I know the title of the series is Series 53 - but that&#039;s just a piece of text and it&#039;s not modelled as such in the database).

Sorry it&#039;s a bit misleading - it&#039;s more useful for programmes that are new i.e. those that have started since the start of the data in the database.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave</p>
<p>This is really a problem with the data &#8211; because we don&#8217;t yet have a full schedule history we don&#8217;t know/ the application doesn&#8217;t &#8216;know&#8217; that this isn&#8217;t a debut (I know the title of the series is Series 53 &#8211; but that&#8217;s just a piece of text and it&#8217;s not modelled as such in the database).</p>
<p>Sorry it&#8217;s a bit misleading &#8211; it&#8217;s more useful for programmes that are new i.e. those that have started since the start of the data in the database.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should I be able to get a calendar that just shows the debut of a programme?

eg http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006s5dp/episodes/upcoming/debut.ics

This is currently showing old episodes on BBC7 and repeats of the current series on BBC Radio 4 LW, as well as the new series that is debuting on BBC Radio 4 FM. Just wondered if there was a way to get just new stuff or is this just a bug?

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should I be able to get a calendar that just shows the debut of a programme?</p>
<p>eg <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006s5dp/episodes/upcoming/debut.ics" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006s5dp/episodes/upcoming/debut.ics</a></p>
<p>This is currently showing old episodes on BBC7 and repeats of the current series on BBC Radio 4 LW, as well as the new series that is debuting on BBC Radio 4 FM. Just wondered if there was a way to get just new stuff or is this just a bug?</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: alf</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually I just noticed the &quot;series-&gt;title&quot; and &quot;episode-&gt;position&quot; fields - they should be enough, probably.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I just noticed the &#8220;series-&gt;title&#8221; and &#8220;episode-&gt;position&#8221; fields &#8211; they should be enough, probably.</p>
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		<title>By: alf</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any chance of getting the series and episode numbers in there? I&#039;ve been trying to get alerts when new comedy series start on Radio 4 for years, and this is almost perfect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance of getting the series and episode numbers in there? I&#8217;ve been trying to get alerts when new comedy series start on Radio 4 for years, and this is almost perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Scott</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2008/08/09/whens-the-sailing-on-introducing-genre-schedules/#comment-2220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rob yes you can - sorry I should have pointed out how to do that. 

All you need to do is add /schedules/upcoming.ics to the URL so for example the sailing schedule is:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/genres/sport/sailing/schedules/upcoming.ics]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob yes you can &#8211; sorry I should have pointed out how to do that. </p>
<p>All you need to do is add /schedules/upcoming.ics to the URL so for example the sailing schedule is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/genres/sport/sailing/schedules/upcoming.ics" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/genres/sport/sailing/schedules/upcoming.ics</a></p>
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