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	<title>Comments on: Daytum I love you but please join the web</title>
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		<title>By: axzm</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2009/04/06/daytum-i-love-you-but-please-join-the-web/#comment-3053</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I truly hope this is available soon. I would love to import my foursquare and / or gowalla check-ins. Going in manually and entering in all that stuff is tedious. Also, being able to display the data within my own website would definitely be cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly hope this is available soon. I would love to import my foursquare and / or gowalla check-ins. Going in manually and entering in all that stuff is tedious. Also, being able to display the data within my own website would definitely be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2009/04/06/daytum-i-love-you-but-please-join-the-web/#comment-2823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in the same boat, have signed up for Daytum and like the look and idea of it... but until it has an API that can allow me to start adding data to it automatically from various sources, and get that data back out as easily, its no use to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the same boat, have signed up for Daytum and like the look and idea of it&#8230; but until it has an API that can allow me to start adding data to it automatically from various sources, and get that data back out as easily, its no use to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Foomandoonian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foomandoonian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally decided to give Daytum a go, and quickly hit upon the same limitations. When I gave the site my Twitter info I imagined I would then be able to create panels for &#039;tweets per day&#039; and such. But no. 

As a very webby user, but not an API techy, I would love at least the option to bring in the data I already have in so many places.

It&#039;s been a few months since this post, and the last real developments on their official blog - I wonder if we&#039;ll be seeing any updates soon?

...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally decided to give Daytum a go, and quickly hit upon the same limitations. When I gave the site my Twitter info I imagined I would then be able to create panels for &#8216;tweets per day&#8217; and such. But no. </p>
<p>As a very webby user, but not an API techy, I would love at least the option to bring in the data I already have in so many places.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a few months since this post, and the last real developments on their official blog &#8211; I wonder if we&#8217;ll be seeing any updates soon?</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Scott</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2009/04/06/daytum-i-love-you-but-please-join-the-web/#comment-2606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nicholas yes I had seen that you plan to release an API, which is great news; I&#039;m hoping it will be a nice RESTful, webby one. One that both lets me update daytum databases and one that lets me pull data in from elsewhere to be visualised (but not stored). :)

@Paul Hadn&#039;t clocked how to grab the URL, thanks for pointing it out. But they aren&#039;t quite what I&#039;m hoping for, both because the URLs aren&#039;t hackable (as you point out) but also because they aren&#039;t discoverable from the webpage.

Likewise the export as CSV is good - but it&#039;s not very webby. Why can&#039;t I get this data &#039;dynamically&#039; at a variety of URLs. For example I would like to see URLs like:

daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/2009.json
daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/2009/03.csv
daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/2009/04/06.rdf
daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/latest.atom
daytum.com/:user/{:statement}/apml/from/2009/02/05/to/2009/04/06]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicholas yes I had seen that you plan to release an API, which is great news; I&#8217;m hoping it will be a nice RESTful, webby one. One that both lets me update daytum databases and one that lets me pull data in from elsewhere to be visualised (but not stored). :)</p>
<p>@Paul Hadn&#8217;t clocked how to grab the URL, thanks for pointing it out. But they aren&#8217;t quite what I&#8217;m hoping for, both because the URLs aren&#8217;t hackable (as you point out) but also because they aren&#8217;t discoverable from the webpage.</p>
<p>Likewise the export as CSV is good &#8211; but it&#8217;s not very webby. Why can&#8217;t I get this data &#8216;dynamically&#8217; at a variety of URLs. For example I would like to see URLs like:</p>
<p>daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/2009.json<br />
daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/2009/03.csv<br />
daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/2009/04/06.rdf<br />
daytum.com/:user/:statement/by/latest.atom<br />
daytum.com/:user/{:statement}/apml/from/2009/02/05/to/2009/04/06</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Mison</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2009/04/06/daytum-i-love-you-but-please-join-the-web/#comment-2605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Panels do have individual links: for example, the &quot;how many books has Paul read this year&quot; panel is at http://daytum.com/panels/36353 (which isn&#039;t exactly the URL you want; that would have /blech/ instead of, or before, /panels/). Unfortunately, like a lot of the Daytum interface, it&#039;s not very discoverable: only the owner of a panel can find the URL, by looking at &quot;options&quot;.

I did note that one of the features launched with the release from beta is an export-to-CSV URL, and as Nicholas has responded above, both an API and an iPhone app are apparently forthcoming. (An API is key for me; it might let me connect things to Daytum the way Tower Bridge and ISS are connected to Twitter.) Being able to get data both in &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; out of a service is vital these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panels do have individual links: for example, the &#8220;how many books has Paul read this year&#8221; panel is at <a href="http://daytum.com/panels/36353" rel="nofollow">http://daytum.com/panels/36353</a> (which isn&#8217;t exactly the URL you want; that would have /blech/ instead of, or before, /panels/). Unfortunately, like a lot of the Daytum interface, it&#8217;s not very discoverable: only the owner of a panel can find the URL, by looking at &#8220;options&#8221;.</p>
<p>I did note that one of the features launched with the release from beta is an export-to-CSV URL, and as Nicholas has responded above, both an API and an iPhone app are apparently forthcoming. (An API is key for me; it might let me connect things to Daytum the way Tower Bridge and ISS are connected to Twitter.) Being able to get data both in <i>and</i> out of a service is vital these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://derivadow.com/2009/04/06/daytum-i-love-you-but-please-join-the-web/#comment-2600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom - Thank you, this is a really thoughtful and well written post, that holds the site to the same standards we aspire to. I hope that we can move things along and get some of these features out there more quickly - we do have an API underway and hope to speak to that a bit more on our blog in the coming weeks. 

All the best, Nicholas@daytum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; Thank you, this is a really thoughtful and well written post, that holds the site to the same standards we aspire to. I hope that we can move things along and get some of these features out there more quickly &#8211; we do have an API underway and hope to speak to that a bit more on our blog in the coming weeks. </p>
<p>All the best, Nicholas@daytum.</p>
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